Maybe VR isn't dead after all... - Valve Index Review

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    Linus Tech Tips

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Phillipe
Phillipe

Oculus Rift S, anyone? Linus forgot to mention it entirely!!!!!!! No need for extra cameras at all, for $ 400, it’s a good VR headset...

6 өдрийн өмнө
Solarizer
Solarizer

@Linus Tech Tips I would also like to see the review on the Rift S, but those index controllers and the game Boneworks looks very good!

3 цагийн өмнө
Guybrush Threepwood
Guybrush Threepwood

I upgraded from CV1 to a Rift S. I find it miles ahead of Cv1, and currently the best bang for your buck. Ocant say I've noticed the stop to 80hz, and everything is buttery smooth, image clarity is miles better, I can read everything in cockpits while playing DCS. Yes the built in audio is shit, but it has a jack, my astros fit over the top x and I use 5.1s most of the time. Even with that, it's still excellent value. Index is no doubt better, but not twice the price better, given how fast VR tech is moving, Rift S is a better short term investment

4 цагийн өмнө
Darron Edwards
Darron Edwards

@Zenroy Other way around for me chap, had the Lenovo WMR and it was pretty dire IMO ....sold it and bought a Rift S....a lot more compatibility and it just works. Each to their own though.

19 цагийн өмнө
J cook
J cook

@mrrip inc. Agreed! and for the money its a deal! but i did notice the 80hz over the 90hz in beat saber, and the worst part of rift-S is the HEADPHONES!!!!!!!! GARBAGE!!!!!!! that alone makes me want to take it back and get the index.

19 цагийн өмнө
David Bixler
David Bixler

@mrrip inc. once in a while I have tracking fallout, but a quick close and reopen of the Oculus app on Windows and it typically fixes itself. There is also a controller bug with the right controller showing up extra controllers that don't exist and once in a while pairing gets glitched. MAKE SURE you are using a USB 3 port for this, if you accidentally plug it in to a 2+ port, it'll have lots of issues and bugs until you move it. Powered hubs also are unreliable.

21 цагийн өмнө
Viktor Pat
Viktor Pat

What katana is that in the backround?

3 цагийн өмнө
Erik Püllenberg
Erik Püllenberg

You can do a minor bit of modding and actually adjust the angle at which the sabers protrude from your controller, youre not alone with that problem

3 цагийн өмнө
RetroProfessional
RetroProfessional

4:37 uwu a kitty cat

3 цагийн өмнө
Jonas Vilander
Jonas Vilander

KITTY!

4 цагийн өмнө
Cris Chapilliquen
Cris Chapilliquen

Your cat needs to be in more videos

4 цагийн өмнө
Ida Bagus Jaya Sukarya
Ida Bagus Jaya Sukarya

The logo reminds me of MasterCard

4 цагийн өмнө
Reprisal
Reprisal

Down vote for trash 18:9 aspect ratio.

5 цагийн өмнө
Andrew Howard
Andrew Howard

Cats and tech reviews go well together.

5 цагийн өмнө
elides1
elides1

Crying in poor as i wait till christmas for the oculus quest :c

6 цагийн өмнө
Joan Ciao
Joan Ciao

good kitty

7 цагийн өмнө
Kaligath
Kaligath

Now i would love to hear how you make the HTC vive wands into leg trackers due to we have knuckles now as our main hand controllers.

7 цагийн өмнө
Yehia Elzatahry
Yehia Elzatahry

From where did you get it

7 цагийн өмнө
Ginger Ninger
Ginger Ninger

I feel like for me at least, this would be a fairly pointless upgrade, I can see the befits, that's for sure, but I can't justify the extra expense just so I can see a little further a little better, room scale is what sold me on the vive having gone from the Rift DK2. What I really need to do is get some funds together so I can upgrade my VR machine, when I was using my main PC I could absolutely play better than I currently can with my dedicated. i5 3570 is doing it's best.

8 цагийн өмнө
meme man
meme man

I know it's definitely pretty far removed from when you filmed (and you might've figured it out already) but taking the frunk cover off improves thermals a fair bit, so if your face is getting hot or if your headset's getting a lil warm for your liking you can do that

8 цагийн өмнө
Stuff On Saturday
Stuff On Saturday

VR is not dead... although a 999$ System might not be the best way to say it is still alive😃 Dad got a Victormaxx Stuntmaster back in 97. We bought the Vive for 799$ when it came out. The Quest 399$ when it came out. Cannot currently justify the 999$ expense for this system. We are currently enjoying our Quest thou.

9 цагийн өмнө
Anders Schulze
Anders Schulze

C A T

9 цагийн өмнө
Saulo Benigno
Saulo Benigno

What a big trouble to setup this thing .... Oculus Quest anyone?

11 цагийн өмнө
haui
haui

3:59 $1000 gear now with broken cable.

11 цагийн өмнө
RubberBoa
RubberBoa

Why was the cat inside the box?

12 цагийн өмнө
2ndLastJedi
2ndLastJedi

Shadow!

13 цагийн өмнө
2ndLastJedi
2ndLastJedi

How far down the road can you see in say Assetto Corsa or Project CARS 2? I sold my Rift because I didn't like how far I could see in racing Sims.

13 цагийн өмнө
Toxically Masculine
Toxically Masculine

gosh nice gimbal

13 цагийн өмнө
CybershamanX
CybershamanX

(11:40) Heh. Linus is all out of breath. ;) Yeah, I wonder how much people actually consistently play their full body VR games. Every time I see someone play, they get tired pretty quick. :P

14 цагийн өмнө
Patrox92
Patrox92

Pimax 5K+ is also really nice VR headset if u want 170 horizontal FOV. If u try once u never gonna back to 120 FOV ;)

14 цагийн өмнө
Denu 187
Denu 187

$1000 for a VR headset to play crappy indie games... what a huge lol

14 цагийн өмнө
Moustache Spy
Moustache Spy

Why didnt you play the actual hands demo? You mostly played games that barely support the index. You also neglected to mention that the fingertracking improves over time with sustained use

14 цагийн өмнө
dwkwb8
dwkwb8

980ti??? Shame.

14 цагийн өмнө
Ben Vernon
Ben Vernon

My god, cats are such dicks. Why do people own them? 🤦‍♂️😑

14 цагийн өмнө
Hamish Hannay
Hamish Hannay

Cat not include 😆 darn

15 цагийн өмнө
Riasat Salmin Sami
Riasat Salmin  Sami

When will vr get variable refresh rate support?

15 цагийн өмнө
checkmate
checkmate

All of this sounds WAY too complicated to me to actually be fun.

16 цагийн өмнө
Joseph Cavender JR
Joseph Cavender JR

Can the value index controllers be used with the vive

16 цагийн өмнө
Hytrozion
Hytrozion

what is the utility of cameras in the front of the headset ?

16 цагийн өмнө
Renato Medeiros
Renato Medeiros

why don't they do controls with a real glove controls?

17 цагийн өмнө
William Lawrence
William Lawrence

Rfit S was a huge upgrade over the original Rift, should review that!

17 цагийн өмнө
Tyler Durden
Tyler Durden

Neeeerd. good review though

17 цагийн өмнө
Feint
Feint

IF you don't have any VR headset but you have a powerful gaming computer, are there any VR games that justify the 1000 USD investment? So far, the only game that looks worth it IMHO is Lone Echo which is an Oculus title. Sure, you can use something to allow you to play Oculus titles on Steam VR headsets, but aren't there control mapping problems?

17 цагийн өмнө
trinitrotoulen
trinitrotoulen

Hey Linus, can you play war thunder #warthunder with that headset ? thank you

17 цагийн өмнө
Sidney Candido
Sidney Candido

Linus, I know someday or another you're going to review the HP Reverb, can you do us a favor of including racing/flight games on the review? I think the Reverb might be perfect for those seated experiences, but I want your opinion

18 цагийн өмнө
Muhammad hiari
Muhammad hiari

0:57 wow a segue that makes sense

18 цагийн өмнө
andrew szerbiak
andrew szerbiak

So Linus wishes for a strapon experience? Interesting.

19 цагийн өмнө
J cook
J cook

he doesn't play BS on EX+.

19 цагийн өмнө
Edward Roy
Edward Roy

Damn he has a nose most Jews would envy

19 цагийн өмнө
Andy Ackerman
Andy Ackerman

I had no idea that you were into a strap on experience. Not judging.

19 цагийн өмнө
Chase H
Chase H

If you aren't impressed by the finger tracking in "supported" games, just wait until Boneworks from Stress Level Zero comes out on Steam. They have some amazing work being done over there. I'm hoping other game developers will follow suite.

19 цагийн өмнө
hum bug
hum bug

When Half Life VR comes out in a few months these should sell better.

20 цагийн өмнө
Andrej Naumoski
Andrej Naumoski

If this headset was 400 dollars and the oculus rift like 200 dollars vr would be widely accepted and used by now. Vr is cool, all it needs to be is cheaper.

20 цагийн өмнө
TheStig ZeroZeroZero
TheStig ZeroZeroZero

Does it come with a cat? Cool!

20 цагийн өмнө
Chris Borg
Chris Borg

3:38 love the linuscattips product placment

20 цагийн өмнө
Grendel _
Grendel _

And the like goes to the kitten :)

21 цагийн өмнө
Clash Royale
Clash Royale

Htc Cosmos :\, guys the Cosmos!!!

21 цагийн өмнө
ItsJustMe Mildoze
ItsJustMe Mildoze

https://youtu.be/6p1e_JSol8s?t=275 Suddenly LTT turned into Linus Cat Tips

21 цагийн өмнө
Ecchiboy Gaming
Ecchiboy Gaming

Blade and sorcery is the best game for testing vr.

21 цагийн өмнө
DarklingGolem50
DarklingGolem50

I bought one and I'm returning it tomorrow because it didn't come with a cat

22 цагийн өмнө
Helltech
Helltech

I *really* can't trust Linus' opinion on VR anymore. As a Rift S, Pimax 5K+, and an Index owner, I can say that I still prefer my Pimax to the other two, though it is heavily modded to make it better (because it is shit out of the box). For example, using the Vive Deluxe Audio Strap and of course using Index Controllers. Also the fact he is blown away by the clarity makes me feel he never gave the Pimax a shot because he wouldn't be blown away if he did.

23 цагийн өмнө
Robert Mastrobattista
Robert Mastrobattista

VR TROOPERS REF IN THE INTRO XD!!!!!!!!!

23 цагийн өмнө
Akira Hiroshi
Akira Hiroshi

If VR dies, so do I.

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Hlspwns World
Hlspwns World

Linus I have to totally agree with everything that you have said, but currently having the Oculus Rift, even though my system and display is now 4K and I fall into the category of someone who wants the index, it's still a lot of money to completely upgrade. The Rift S is attractive due to its ease of use and much lower price, but imo and yours the index is king. A small price drop (Half Life 3) would be a real clincher, for now i'll be holding on to my Rift for a bit longer I think. What about the Cosmos???????

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Alex Buckenham
Alex Buckenham

No-one thought VR was dead but LTT. Biggest evangelists before the rift came out then just declared it dead.

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Z/dos
Z/dos

"Depending on what your doing in VR" ;)

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duked19
duked19

Hmmm... at 3:43 the frunk suddenly and magically disappears for a few secs. =0

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duked19
duked19

During the past years, you should have upgraded your Vive with Deluxe Audio Strap, Wireless adapter and joystick addon for the Vive wands. Such a difference. Vive is (unfortumately) still one of the best VR-headsets out there thanks to the blacks, brightness, binocular overlap, Hz, games, tracking, and decent FOV. (duked's tech tips)

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Virjoinga
Virjoinga

I wish I could afford this, at least I have my Oculus Rift CV1 for the meantime :D

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Null Null
Null Null

Mouse cursor on screen, duh

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General Obi-Wan Kenobi
General Obi-Wan Kenobi

Literally no one was saying VR was dead.

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SpiderUsman1254
SpiderUsman1254

What about the Oculus Quest?

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Everett Ward
Everett Ward

The cat in the box.... was alive.

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loktar
loktar

Great review, but as an owner of the Vive/Rift the only way I'm upgrading is for wireless at this point. That's the real game changer.

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Wry
Wry

I don't believe GORN has proper full finger tracking support yet, it has preset combinations of buttons that represent a few hand expressions as you saw. Please find a proper game or maybe even a tech demo to show off the controllers.

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pokeface119
pokeface119

I liked the Dell Mixed Reality, despite what "Reviewers" say, it was a LOT sturdier than it seems and over 2 years of punching walls full force over and over again it still hasn't broke xD (I also like how it has no limits on play space and you don't need to set it up like other VR sets, as well as liking the 300$ price tag on Newegg making it probably the cheapest 6 dimensional headset with controllers. The display is fantastic as well.)

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Alex Flockhart
Alex Flockhart

They are still using fresnel lenses? I'd much rather have clearer picture and a bit more weight

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STOPYOURCLICKBAIT Bruh
STOPYOURCLICKBAIT Bruh

Lmao got a quest cause I don’t have a $ 2000 Pc lmao

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Mexican Mario
Mexican Mario

so can you play piano with these controllers

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Joe Dirt
Joe Dirt

Had the Index and loved it and its for sure the better HMD but the controllers are overrated and the "finger tracking" is analog and feels as such so might as well have physical buttons for each finger, prob would be more accurate to use. I sent my Index back because my PDI is like 2 points wider then their max plus its def not worth $1000, maybe $700 max and the lack of content for it, VR in general. 5 years maybe VR will be gold with better pc's and better displays and true VR content, ill try VR again.

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KrazyKrzysztof
KrazyKrzysztof

vr games are pretty shit but pron must be amazing on this beast

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Rustley
Rustley

Yeah yeah yeah, we get it, 1000 dollar valve index it's real cool and all... But where's the Oculus quest coverage? 400 dollars, no PC or phone or console needed, it's all in the headset already, no baystations or cameras needed, really good inside out tracking that's 1000x better than WMR tracking, there's some really nice rift ports on it, what about that?

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Gucci
Gucci

Linus been hitting the gym?

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fNatyk
fNatyk

11:59 Great sound bite..

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fNatyk
fNatyk

HIDE THE CAT! Alinity is on her way!

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