Avengers Endgame CAP NEW TIMELINE Revealed!

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    Avengers Endgame VFX secrets reveal Captain America's age in the final scene! What new details did we discover about the hidden history and complex time travel logic of Cap's final mission in Avengers Endgame? Erik Voss breaks down the math on Old Man Cap and how it settles the dueling interpretations of the Endgame ending. Did Cap and Peggy live in a new timeline, or were there multiple Caps hanging out in the same reality throughout the MCU history? Why can't the Endgame directors and screenwriters agree on what happened in the final scene of the biggest movie of all time?
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Nicholas Jackson
Nicholas Jackson

No

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Guilherme
Guilherme

the biggest movie of all time also has the biggest plot hole

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Anthony Griffin
Anthony Griffin

The coming surprise at a theater near you.

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Sarah Clapp
Sarah Clapp

Hahaha you lost me

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Raegen Doan
Raegen Doan

OK, so I re-watched Avengers: Endgame, and i couldn't help but notice that once everyone came back from the past, there is a few frames where caps cheek is visible, and appears to have a kiss mark on it. I wonder if he confronted Peggy before coming back to 2023, and promised to come back. So instead of going 1948 like thee writers said, what if he went back to 1970? Also, Steve came back in 2011, and stayed in the future for 12 years. 1970 is 12 years after 1948, so he would be the same age in 1970 if he never went into the ice.

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Antoine Rogers
Antoine Rogers

I wasted 6 mins of my life watching this.

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Caden Douglass
Caden Douglass

00:55 Who else thinks that looks like Natasha. (Black Widow)

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James Lawner
James Lawner

So does that mean Agent Carter is no longer canon?

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Szalai Erik
Szalai Erik

M&M are just terrible writers imo. Sorry! They do a lot of mistakes.

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Dave Hulteen, Jr.
Dave Hulteen, Jr.

All of that is based on the idea that he returned the stones quickly and then left. Who's to say he didn't stay in one of the timelines longer? Like... years longer?

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King Vikram 01
King Vikram 01

How did he get the shield if he took from the other timeline what about the young cap there

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Jenefer Jones
Jenefer Jones

Wait! I have to look at my cheat cheat to double check dates. Civil war was when? And what's 2023? 🤯🤔

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Leth Hugo
Leth Hugo

none

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CoinOpTV
CoinOpTV

because .... math

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RICK NICK
RICK NICK

To me The shield is the biggest hint it was not broken he come from the timeline that the 2014 thanos was killed from.

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

The root cause of the issue, which likely will never be publicly acknowledged is that M&M: A) Didn’t know how to write the time travel. B) Predetermined that Cap would go back to the past and be with Peggy (whatever it takes). C) Only way time travel works is multiverse. D) That’s what the Russo’s put in the film - but the writers were not happy with it. _________________________________________________________________________________________ The writers came up with the bullshix that only taking a stone causes multiverse. This way they could control it and make any claim they wanted, such as predicating it on B$ stone MaGuffins. This works for a dumb dumb audience. But for anyone who understands that the underlying issue is ‘causality’ - this *cannot ever work.* Fundamentally the multiverse rule is *simple* - it’s not complex. *You can’t change the past.* That’s it. Any identifiable change to the past must take place in alternate reality, by definition... Because the issue is that the past *has already happened.* Any change to it, is in an alternate reality. 1st Example from the film. ⬇️

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dnw1987
dnw1987

??? HOW SWAY!!!???

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You owe a life
You owe a life

Mabey that other timeline will be where what if us set

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Rick Horner
Rick Horner

I love how needlessly complicated this is.

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Kiyan Pardakhti
Kiyan Pardakhti

Or how about our cap went to another timeline, and another cap came to our timeline.

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iamscotfree
iamscotfree

Well this is the First explanation that left more questions. I dig it. Nothing makes sense lol

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Jacob Williams
Jacob Williams

And additional years could have been taken in putting things back “how ever long it takes him”

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Jacob Williams
Jacob Williams

The one where Cap going back IS part of THE timeline. He is a loop and that is not branching but keeping it as-is.

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Doron Bond
Doron Bond

So I guess after 70 or so years the serum wears off huh....SMH ....lame

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

*Question:* How does Cap return to the bench instead of the Quantum Bridge. *Answer:* Using the Quantum Bridge from the alternate timeline in 2016. *Question:* Can they travel from one timeline to another? *Answer:* Of course, what do you think they’ve been doing the whole time? When Thanos comes back to attack them he is the Thanos from an alternate timeline. Thanos from this timeline is dead. That’s why killing Thanos at the end of the film, does not itself undue the original snap. All the time travel in the film is always to alternate timelines.... otherwise *none of the film can make any sense.* Period. And that’s why M&M never can and never will be able to explain the idiotic idea that Cap went back to the original timeline. He didn’t because per this film, you can’t.

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

It’s very obvious that the root cause of the problem is that M&M could not figure out the Back2theFuture time travel. Then when the physicists straightened out the Back2theFuture bullshit....M&M didn’t completely understand it. So they ended up “interpreting” the events in the film an a manner defined as impossible by the physicists who wrote the time travel logic.

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Matthew Grotke
Matthew Grotke

But how did Cap physically get into that scene onto that bench. If he came back into this timeline in 2015 and just literally waited here until 2024, then where was he during those 9 years? Was he sitting there on the bench all afternoon? If so, why didn't Hulk see him sitting on the bench while he was sending young cap back in time? And what is the purpose of the time travel pad anyway when apparently you just need a Pym gadget on your belt?

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

Matthew Grotke “What is the purpose of the pad anyway” It is a Quantum Bridge - a bridge between different space time realities accessible within the Quantum realm. Use this analogy. The phone system. The phone company’s switch = Quantum Bridge = the time machine. A cell phone = space time GPS. When you talk on a cell phone to another user with a cell phone, you still make the connection thru the phone company. The phone company can forward or transfer you on to another party. There is a phone company [time machine] in both Caps alternate and main timeline. He can use either one. It does not have to terminate his travel only to time machine in the main timeline.

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hunter jameson
hunter jameson

What about when they end up finding the original cap in the ice while our older cap is settling down with peggy

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hunter jameson
hunter jameson

People still gonna ask some questions this lol.

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

hunter jameson If they find him in 2011 - then Cap and Peggy are over 90 years old.

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GippyWhite
GippyWhite

YOU DID IT!!!!!!!! You totally confirmed my theories!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 WOOHOO!!!!!!!! 💙💙💙

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invent this
invent this

so cap went back and erased spiderman

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New Gaming Company
New Gaming Company

I stopped listening at 2:00 you speak too fast

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kayla lewis
kayla lewis

transportation carry tide famous embrace peace subject somewhere definition dress lake

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Rachel melendez
Rachel melendez

I have headache.. please just agree on a story... Marvel please ... But can be cleared up with one more cap movie 😁

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

There is no disagreement at Marvel. The dispute is between Marvel and the screen writers - and they don’t work for Marvel. They originally tried for Back2theFuture time travel. But, it did not work. It’s the physicists who were brought in to develop Multiverse time travel and that is what is in the film, regardless of what the screen writers want. So here is what McFeely says... *The multiverse clearly exists, because Doctor Strange has talked all about it and it’s part of the fabric of that. This may be where I disagree with Marvel and where they’re going. McFeely said.* ⬆️ Screen writer’s view on the time travel is irrelevant - as they did not write it. Period.

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Jon Rausseo
Jon Rausseo

Hmmmm, but what if Cap was hanging around in the MCU, creeping it up, and ended up being one of the people who got dusted? That gets him really close to the 106 age that the sreen writers are going with

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Dino Skull19
Dino Skull19

Just saying they should've just casted Clint Eastwood instead of doing extra digital work

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Gopher Baroque
Gopher Baroque

This is a little off topic, but I've had one issue with the final battle in Endgame. When Captain America says "Avengers Assemble", they're pretty much already assembled. So, him saying that was kind of pointless. It was just fan service.

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Joe V
Joe V

like most of the other worst youtubers, you just talk too much. nothing on this video is relevant.

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Mike Salas
Mike Salas

All explanations of time travel are confusing. None of it makes any sense.

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

Mike Salas : It’s a science fiction concept. The requirement for a story is to be consistent with its own rules. EndGame is internally consistent as per the film and as confirmed by the filmmakers. If you choose to believe to follow the screenwriters retconning - it is not.

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jorgen Sen
jorgen Sen

R & R beat eminem?

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ADjustinG2013
ADjustinG2013

im downloading this video to save for future reference. thanks.

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James Scott Jr.
James Scott Jr.

Clearly only the Russos explaination is correct

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Team SMSD
Team SMSD

“Time to try and fix a plot hole” -Them while making this

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

Either - there is no plot hole ➡️ The filmmakers. Or there is an utterly unfixable one ➡️ the screenwriters.

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David Templarios
David Templarios

Say that again

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

Sure: *Time travel in our film creates an alternate reality. Steve Rogers lived a completely different life in that world. We don’t know how exactly his life turned out, but we’d like to believe he still helped many others when they were needed in that world.* - Joe and Anthony Russo.

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Sophia Wilson
Sophia Wilson

I take the writers of The Endgame take of the story.

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Sophia Wilson
Sophia Wilson

@Summer Tyme You pick what you want and I will pick mine.

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

That’s your prerogative but the screen writers didn’t write the time travel rules, so their opinion on the topic is irrelevant. There is nothing written in EndGame to support their view, and the writing directly refutes them. [again - cuz - time travel logic - *they did not write*]

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jesustapdncingchrist
jesustapdncingchrist

Peggy Carter died in 2016 that's probably when he came back

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

jesustapdncingchrist Yes.

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Sophia Wilson
Sophia Wilson

In the movie Winter Solider it had different writers they had different take on the story that Peggy's husband was always Steve Rogers. That he stay out the people way and let the his younger self work it out. I take the Winter Solider Storyline any day over the Russo's brothers.

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Kyle Kifer
Kyle Kifer

Captain America came back to this timeline after Peggy died in 2016(i.e. Captain America civil war). So that means the bench scene takes place in 2023.

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Chris Goody
Chris Goody

Stupid Disney commu it for ruining th industry.

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mikeg155
mikeg155

Obviously Cap just hid in the background the whole time and let Bucky get tortured/used as a killing machine.

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Elcy Fernandes
Elcy Fernandes

I believe that the timeline we have been following is a branch time line and not the main timelibe

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

Every time someone makes a failed argument about Cap always being in the main time line, it reminds us of the line from Thanos: *You could not accept your own failure...where did that lead you? Back to me.* 😂 *Time travel in our film creates an alternate reality. Steve Rogers lived a completely different life in that world. We don’t know how exactly his life turned out, but I’d like to believe he still helped many others when they were needed in that world.* - Joe and Anthony Russo.

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Mr_Husk_DR
Mr_Husk_DR

if old cap time traveled he needs a Pym tech and he need a platform like cap before time traveled to return the stones .

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

Mr_Husk_DR : Platform [Quantum Bridge you mean] like Hank Pym’s in 2016 in the alternate timeline? Pym particles....like from Hank Pym in the alternate timeline? Do you even understand that Hank Pym is alive at the end of the film and can give them all the Pym particles they need? So....please explain what you think your point is?

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keith sterling
keith sterling

none makes sense. i am still waiting for answer about sharon carter

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

What is your question?

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Stark Studios
Stark Studios

Peggy died in 2015, that's why he came back to present day MCU

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

Yes, though think it's 2016.

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jakryk
jakryk

Someone with mad PhotoShop skills must put old Steve Rogers "creeping around" in the background of all Marvel movies.

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

That would be hilarious. 😂

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Timothy Crosby
Timothy Crosby

Why are people obsessing about his age?

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Reem Ro
Reem Ro

I dont think this is important

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Tabitha Moore
Tabitha Moore

And still, none of this changes their murder of Cap's characterization.

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

Cap's character is only murdered if you believe he went back in time and did nothing but hide his whole life, as the screen writers suggested.

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Mert Bince
Mert Bince

Does thanos win in the timeline cap created? I mean they are 1 supersoldier short thanos should be winning that fight

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

*He lived a completely different life in that world. We don’t know how exactly his life turned out, but I’d like to believe he still helped many others when they were needed in that world.* - Joe and Anthony Russo. This is how the filmmakers view *their* film. We know M&M didn’t write anything about Cap helping people in the past because they’ve already said they didn’t write anything for this.

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Summer Tyme
Summer Tyme

Mert Bince : It is only 2016 in that timeline, but we have to assume that among other things, Cap would have stopped this, otherwise the entire action is insane. Always remember that the writers started with an idea of sending Cap back, but they failed to write the time travel rules, which is why the physicists were called in to begin with. The writers just wrote “Cap Dance with Peggy.” They certainly didn’t write anything about what happens in alternate timelines.

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Alistya Oktaviani
Alistya Oktaviani

too much maths

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