The Gene Patent Question

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Farren Castell
Farren Castell

The knowledge belongs to all humans not one company.

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daivd young
daivd young

if invention take time; its not invention its discovery; invention is not governed by time; add time to invention you just turned it into discovery; therefore, if your documentation shows there was time to your invention; you've turned invention into discovery; or what resulted is not invention; but discovery; because invention is not & cannot be governed by time;

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daivd young
daivd young

"To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries." This is article 1 section 8 clause 8; It makes clear; inventor and author; writing and discovery; Their respective; This is not ‘apple, tree’; this is ‘apple tree’; authors and inventors . . the writing and discovery; What is discovered i.e. yukon gold; cannot be patented; under invention; because invention is not discovered; if person discovers talented britney spears; such cannot be patented; Therefore, gene cannot be patented; even if you make modification; because if you edit britney spears so she can only sing R&B; you still cannot patent outcome; This is true with drug; wheat, corn; etc; You discover gold and make gold alloy; you still cannot patent it; But if you made gold into copper; you probably can; but that be illegal if you turned human into tomato; I am glad you did this segment; because i did not know there was in depth question hanging; over discovery of gene; drug; wheat; corn; etc; gave some thought and now its been addressed; And clock start ticking from moment you come known;

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Aladeen Madafaka
Aladeen Madafaka

Have you ever heard of the term "government research"? Patenting and privatizing science is equal to patenting and privatizing language, math, ideas and overall knowledge. Therefore if you allow knowledge to be patented, education will stop being a right. If the right to education is thwarted by gene patenting, it is unconstitutional.

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Aladeen Madafaka
Aladeen Madafaka

I'm going as far as to say that this is not even a question for 98% of the people, from the peasants, proletarians, middle clases and employees. This is an undecent question born from those who believe they can make a profit out of it. And it is only and EXCLUSIVELY embraced and propagated out of those aspiring to be like the monsters i just mentioned. Therefore it is only a matter of time until fear of this question evolves to anger and violence against what this question represents. It is only natural for man to take what it's their property, be it at any cost. hopefully it happens peacefuly.

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MorallyQuestionable
MorallyQuestionable

I Think allowing a company to Patent something that was discovered using money produced by taxes is stupid. Of a private company Patents something thats linked to healthcare there should be a Universal Maximum that a company can charge based on the cost of production. (200% of production cost for example)

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Şahin yaşar
Şahin yaşar

Gene Patent is shit. Gene must be unpatentable because noone want to become someones property. I wont recognise gene patent no matter what or who

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AurumTitanos
AurumTitanos

Woah there buddy, don't let the lib's hear you say that intelligence is genetic.

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AurumTitanos
AurumTitanos

Fuck Monsanto. They try to make the non genetically modified seed illegal. Its absolutely ridiculous.

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BBB H
BBB H

It boggles my mind how some people hear the term 'GMO' and then, somehow, think that makes the product somehow unnatural ('Frankenfoods?). ALL domesticated plant, and animals have had their genes modified by humans for thousands of years- it's called selective breeding, etc! Whenever a farmer or rancher or gardener pick some offspring (seeds, etc) over another, or allow only some of their stock to reproduce, they are modifying the genome.of the original plant, etc- since, without human intervention, different offspring would have developed - this is why we have big, juicy strawberrie, fat cows, colorful roses, and so on! This has gone on from the start of agriculture and animal husbandry! This ABSOLUTELY includes any and all 'ORGANIC' plants and animals... But, when it is done in in the traditional manner- such as picking the best bulls and cows and allowing only them to breed the next generation - it's a roll of the dice- somewhat random. Conversely, when using scientific, targeted gene manipulation, the breeder, etc, will be more likely to get exactly what they want; instead of how, in the old paradigm, it took centuries to breed the desirable outcome, it can be done all at ONCE! There is NO fundamental different, other than that, now, we have more accurate control over what we grow... And the ability to do so has, LITERALLY, saved perhaps a BILLION or more lives! BUT, uneducated reactionary luddites hear 'science's and think it's, at best, a perversion of nature, and, at worst, some kind of Machiavellian conspiracy to poison and control the masses to benefit the wealthy... WTF, eh? Let's save LIVES first. If they don't like it, they can live like peasants and grow their own food. (I suspect 99.99+% dont.do ever-growing they'd rather complain - just.like the anti-vaxx idiots! Maybe it just boils down to the fact that he modern world is such a nice place, relative to the past, that the poor-me whiners have to actively look for causes that they may participate in (in a blatantly masturbatory manner) without actually having to risk anything to support!) F'm millienal jackasses!

2 сарын өмнө
MOOSEMOOSE
MOOSEMOOSE

WHAT THE HELL IS THIS ASS HOLE TALKING ABOUT? YOU SO SMART YOU SOUND DUMB?

2 сарын өмнө
Joshua Gherlone
Joshua Gherlone

Mentioning Monsanto's corn without mentioning how awful Monsanto CURRENTLY CONTINUES TO BE is a mistake I can't really leave. Monsanto tried to abuse a simple fact of life to crush any and all competition their corn had. Plants reproduce. Plants spread, in a wide variety of ways. These ways are not all ways that can be controlled normally. Monsanto started suing farmers who lived near the farmers who bought their seeds. Why? They were stealing Monsanto property. How? The seed from Farmer A's Monsanto-Approved Corn Field had been blown, carried by birds, who cares what, to Farmer B's Monsanto-Unapproved Corn Field. Let's be VERY clear here: Farmer B did not at any point purchase, steal, use, or otherwise acquire Monsanto seeds. Then Monsanto does testing of normally purchased corn from the fields of Farmer B, and proceeds to hunt the poor guy with an army of private investigators, thugs, and lawyers, suing his balls off if they get the chance. And make no mistake: They will do anything and everything to DESTROY you, regardless of how you acquired the seeds, or even if they're wrong and you never acquired the seeds at all, and will not stop until they either sue you into the ground or discover that they were mistaken... At which point they vanish without a trace. No attempt to apologize, no attempt to cover any of the massive bills they've caused a completely innocent bystander when they were clearly in the wrong, nothing. They're just fucking GONE. They're criminally vicious and evil and deserve to be destroyed, but are dominating the market for a dozen different staple crops and that number grows by the year. Think it's hard to avoid supporting China? Try avoiding supporting Monsanto, see how fucking far you get.

2 сарын өмнө
AnSan
AnSan

The dangerous thing about human gene editing (patenting it i mean) like you mention at the end of the video is that pretty much only rich people could afford it, if it were patented and owned by a private corporation and not public. I'm all for making humans immune to cancer etc, but the way i see it, if it's not a government or international organization that owns the patent, these modification could well create a technocracy between billionares and the rest of us who probably wouldn't be able to afford such an operation considering how life changing it is, every company knows they can ask as much as they want since there's lives at stake.

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Max Headrom
Max Headrom

The problem is Monsanto charging fees from people who had their seeds contaminated by the genetically modified seeds ...

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Atirix
Atirix

Intellectual property doesn't make sense period.

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Ferenc Gazdag
Ferenc Gazdag

You can't own the genome. The genome owns you. Seriously, the first life was genes floating in water copying themselves, and soon they started creating complex proteins, and cells to ensure their survival.

3 сарын өмнө
David Justin
David Justin

Wypipo are at it again!!!

3 сарын өмнө
Lúzia A Morta
Lúzia A Morta

Humans aren't property.

3 сарын өмнө
Jackson
Jackson

so if you geneticly modified a female human, you could techniquly remove a piece of DNA that can cause cancer and replace it with a simular piece of DNA but cant cause cancer, that would stop the spread of that DNA down the future DNA line to their children, unless they reproduce with someone with a cancer causing DNA

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MANSOOR AHMAD
MANSOOR AHMAD

Now I'm genuinely scared of the future

3 сарын өмнө
Haris Uzunovic
Haris Uzunovic

Hands down one of your best videos

3 сарын өмнө
joseph lemons
joseph lemons

Stupid Fucking College Kids

3 сарын өмнө
Museum of Drawing
Museum of Drawing

I’m sure the Chinese or Russians already jumped crispr. Aren’t you?

3 сарын өмнө
PongoXBongo
PongoXBongo

I never understood the objection to golden rice. People seem to care more about protecting their stupid bananas than protecting children from blindness. Both are GMOs.

4 сарын өмнө
: D
: D

*COUGH* catgirls *COUGH*

4 сарын өмнө
david nichols
david nichols

Wanna get REALLY rich? Find the straight hair gene for Black chicks!

5 сарын өмнө
Lauri Levälehto
Lauri Levälehto

I guess it might be a good idea to create a more regulated patent system. The current system rewards the inventor with quite a long monopoly. I think in many cases it would be better to have a system where companies just need to pay royalties to the inventor. And the country (of which patent you've got) would determine the size of this royalty.

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Abhishek Mashetty
Abhishek Mashetty

Wat if the genetically modified human discovers/invents something, will that person have the patent of the product or the company which modified the person will have the patent right

5 сарын өмнө
Azaurus1
Azaurus1

gene patenting should be a thing but with advances in cutting the cost of such technologies the timeline of the patent should be shorter.

5 сарын өмнө
3a3a3a
3a3a3a

Who wouldnt want their child to be better than the rest

5 сарын өмнө
Doc Brown
Doc Brown

Original corn, wheat and etc were all much dif w very few grains, humans have been hybridizing and custom growing foods for eons, little dif vers of DNA modification. So called 'pure breeds' of cats and dogs are DNA modification thru extensive inbreeding, if you have a pure breed, you have an inbred. There's no such thing as a natural dog, dogs didn't evolve naturally, they were bred by humans from wolves over 1000s of yrs. The modern cow, or any common cow used by humans for the past 1000+ yrs, selectively inbred. Same w most goats and sheep.

6 сарын өмнө
Eidolon Specus
Eidolon Specus

Capitalism ruins everything in Science.

6 сарын өмнө
Gawdat
Gawdat

at 1:38 you misspeak, cancer is almost never "contracted" except in rare circumstances.

6 сарын өмнө
A T O M E N T
A T O M E N T

GMH Genetically Modified Human a product of Mansanto.

6 сарын өмнө
Qwertyuiop Lkjhgfdsazxcvbnm
Qwertyuiop Lkjhgfdsazxcvbnm

um, actually, autism is very difficult to simply edit out because it is controlled my MAGOTS (many assorted genes of tiny significance).

7 сарын өмнө
Soleon
Soleon

"Without the ability to make money off of genetic testing, it can be argued that many companies won't have the motivation to study genetic predispositions." um???? saving people from breast cancer and impacting potentially millions of life isn't enough motivation for most companies to do the research? how can companies be so... stupid

7 сарын өмнө
stylesrj
stylesrj

Stupid isn't the word. It's greedy. No one thinks of the long-term, they only want short-term results.

6 сарын өмнө
bep the shep
bep the shep

There's another side to Monsanto seed rights. Strictly Non-GMO soybean farmers are losing lawsuits with Monsanto's extensive legal team after neighboring farms using Monsanto's Roundup-resistant seed got into the farms of non-GMO farmers. They're forced to pay for the seed or to face lawsuits that often result in the farms going out of business. While I can't see an immediate fix to the issue at hand, we should work to seeing both sides of the problem.

7 сарын өмнө
Xintian Wang
Xintian Wang

Genetically modified human being has been created in China!

7 сарын өмнө
pmcllc
pmcllc

Bring the superhumans

7 сарын өмнө
lukewarmtea137
lukewarmtea137

7:33 it's incredible math just incredible math

7 сарын өмнө
VineFynn
VineFynn

Keep in mind that allowing GM crops to proliferate would probably fuck up the environment

7 сарын өмнө
aozen
aozen

Human genes are not an economical means for the greedy it destroys research done by any other facility basically telling someone you are not allowed to do anything even if you found a cure for something genetically you are not allowed to do anything cs yes we have that gene for ourselfs wtf!

8 сарын өмнө
Megakoresh
Megakoresh

USA in a nutshell. A lot of drama and little substance, as seems to be the case with many of these videos. The real problem is that they took the research paid for by taxpayers, and abused the fuck out of it by charging inconceivable prices for something that is life-critical technology, which is in no way "luxury" so they could get ridiculously rich off the people that funded their research in the first place. If they were ethical with their business practices, no one would sue them in the first place. That's basically how US medical system works. I never hear of something like this happening in EU. Typically the new technology will get picked up by whoever could secure funding for it's usage. A patent implies a % of the profit payout to the original research team for some time or up to a certain sum. It's controlled by the government and ensures healthy competition without anyone being able to secure a ridiculous monopoly by being lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time and sleazy enough to take advantage.

8 сарын өмнө
General Phoney
General Phoney

Does this mean that employers will look for ‘organic humans’ in the future

8 сарын өмнө
Vincent Gallagher
Vincent Gallagher

Thanks for the info. A little “preachy” at the end but good info overall.

10 сарын өмнө
MrMetricSystem
MrMetricSystem

they do not own the gnome now do something novel with the discovery like making a gene therapy for those affected that is patent-able and i think it might be considered a real cure for breast cancer but they are too busy selling tests for dna and doing mastectomies

10 сарын өмнө
GiggitySam Entz
GiggitySam Entz

0:33 Left-handed DNA! :D

10 сарын өмнө
Cory Scott
Cory Scott

Stoked for designer babies though

11 сарын өмнө
Sunny shah
Sunny shah

You can't patent things that occur naturally, however, you can patent modifications to those things that you do through your own tests and methods. And Myriad received funding by taxpayers, and they still charged people $4,000 for the discovery of that gene. Like what the hell is wrong with these corporate goons

11 сарын өмнө
Zes
Zes

no such thing as gene or not

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Richard Gray
Richard Gray

intellectual property right doesnt exist.

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Daily Dose Of Airplanes
Daily Dose Of Airplanes

Ok, so I shouldn’t patent anything so I don’t get in trobule.

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RedXlV
RedXlV

It's idiotic that patenting natural genes was ever allowed. It goes against the very concept of patents. Patents are meant to cover only *inventions,* not discoveries.

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Rishi Gunness
Rishi Gunness

very biased video and misleading as well. No one wants to stop people from making money for something they came up with or discovered but the problem is why do they have to charge soo much for it for something that does not cost nearly as much? if they own the patent then all revenue will go to them so they can charge a lower price and get 100% of the money and more people will be able to find out if they will get cancer or not . you should separate your facts from opinion so its easier to understand the real motive behind these videos

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Jaimie Rogers
Jaimie Rogers

Imagine choosing an buying a genetically modified Gucci child

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Alex M
Alex M

Gattaca movie: there a child was simply selected from combinations of sperm and eggs, allowing to tell 'it is you, only the best of you'. If edit directly, than the child is not offspring of a parent, more like adopted - which is fine for many, by the way.

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Nathan Jarboe
Nathan Jarboe

There huge negatives and positives of both sides of the arguments. It is great but it is hard to make the choice!

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Nathan Jarboe
Nathan Jarboe

This is such a challenging topic. I don’t want other people owning my genes! Then again, it was they who found it and developed it. They were the ones that found the cures for it. Ughh, this is such a controversial conflict that I have no answer for.

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André
André

Premiums >>> Patents

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Xeno Phon
Xeno Phon

You cannot patent genes or DNA, modified or not. Even thinking that you should be able to should have your business seized and liquidated and the patent office handing any out should be purged completely and remade.

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Alpha Jay 3.0
Alpha Jay 3.0

Patenting DNA, Never even thought that could be a possibility

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